Stan Meyer EPG Gas to Power Electric Particle Generator 

Stanley A Meyer EPG

  Now consider the work with magnetic liquids in California where a drop of magnetic liquid  moving through
      a coil

3 .questions      Are the magnetic droplets acting like the neodymium battery train    ( homopolar magnet)
                         and if the  copper coil is  made into a circular loop and pickup coils  placed around the
                         "track"    ( as in the multitier epg) is useful power obtained from the permanently magnetized droplets

it is our belief that Stans Work has been keep secret and being slowly handed out to universities to keep them showing something

I deleted my post regard ElectroStatic Pulsing over Magnetic Pulsing.
After reviewing the thread below...

I understand now that using magnetics is the ideal mode of use of the EPG, but requires the Argon/Cobalt/Nickel, magnetically polarized gas matrix.

I also, reviewed the "House meeting in New Zealand" video where Stan talks about the EPG and the magnetized gas.

I thought for sure that Stan talks about water propulsion on some video...
Maybe I just mis-understood what he was talking about...

Just reviewed the 3rd video of the "House meeting in New Zealand", where he covers the fact that when using laser light within the EPG (He does this to increase the mass of the atomic gas matrix), then, you no-longer need to motivate the gas, because it's the shock wave of the light itself that causes the electrical field generation (which is then caught by the pickup coils), as the electrons move away from the atomic nucleus, which then results is a higher magnetic energy in the gas. Thus, powering all of New Zealand with a single EPG, and entering the relm of OU.


Now, back to the Magnetic Gas Lattice...

Argon (Lubricator, Non Electric, Non Magnetic)
Cobalt Ions
Nickel Ions

Cobalt Ions
Co^2+, Co^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Cobalt wire.

Nickel Ions
Ni^2+, Ni^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Nickel wire.

Iron Ions
Fe^2+, Fe^3+
Generate using HV to a pure Nickel wire.

Generate Cobalt and Nickel Ions using HV within an Argon filled chamber.
- Pass Gas Mixture through VIC and expose to laser energy.
- This destabilizes the Atomic Structures of the main elements in the Gas. So that that we can extract some electrons from them.
- Use electron extraction circuit to remove extra electrons. Now our atoms will be will to take on covalent bonds that they would normally never take on.
- Allow Unstable Gas to stabilize into the new Gas Matrix by making new covalent bonds.

Pump gases into EPG.
Test EPG for appropriate Magnetic Qualities of the Gas Lattice.
- Does pulsing it result in some energy output from the pickup coils?

Damn! That boy was Brilliant!
- Not just theory, but applied science.
- Mechanics, Electronics, Chemistry, Nuclear Physics...
- Amazing stuff!


Stanley A Meyer EPG Instructions

The Purpose of these pages is for your to quickly see learn and advance further on replicating Stan Meyers  to Assist us getting this open source to market 

As you experiment share your picture and video on you tube 

As a Team we advance fast 

the dates on this  aprox 2005 

and than 2012 there was alot of work done

than recently 2016 , Years are passing we need people working on this 

Not all of the early EPG models of Stanley Meyer's devices used mechanical pumps to move
magnetic slurry or gas within the copper spiral cores. One model used linear magnetic drive
pumps to circulate the slurry/gases. The other was the magnetic spin EPG. The  six tier multiple
tier EPG  (aka "gega series" or (6Tmaggasepg) designed for home power generation also had
similar pumps. The seven tier system is now thought to have had a bottom tier with electronics
for control of the flow of the magnetic gas but not pickup coils

see attached 2 new images of the EPGs

1. Magnetic Spin EPG
2  Magnetic Drive EPG
3  Example Linear Mag Drive





VOLTAGE INTENSIFIER CIRCUIT AA …                                              … PAGE1

OPERATIONAL PARAMETERS ……                                                         PAGE 2

VARIABLE AMPLITUDE UNIPOLAR PULSE …                                    … PAGE 3

APPLIED VOLTAGE TO PLATES …                                                      … PAGE 4

LC VOLTAGE .…                                                                                      .. PAGE 5

VIC RESISTANCE DUAL-INLINE RLC NETWORK .                           ….. PAGE 6

VOLTAGE DYNAMIC .…                                                                        … PAGE 7

VOLTAGE CALCULATIONS …                                                             …. PAGE 8


VOLTAGE STIMULATION OF GAS ATOM …                                       .… PAGE 10

LASER INTERACTION ..…                                                                   … PAGE 11

GAS RESONANT CAVITY …                                                             …… PAGE 12

ELECTRON EXTRACTION PROCESS …                                          ……PAGE 13

ATOMIC BONDING OF UNLIKE ATOMS …                                       ……PAGE 14

MAGNETIC GAS LATTICE ……                                                            … PAGE 15

ELECTROMAGNETIC ENHANCEMENT ……                                       … PAGE 16

OPERATIONAL PARAMETERS ...…                                                      … PAGE 17






































NOTES: In the original document some pages were out of order and several figures inadvertently included twice.

The appropriate corrections were made in this edition with duplicate pages deleted and pages placed in the proper order.


*Also found in other Stan Meyer publications.

Above is a photo of one of Stanley's EPG system.  

The EPG system or Electrical Particle Generator is basically a particle accelerator.

The EPG system is something that Stan was working on along with the Water Fuel Cell technology. It is suppose to be able to amplify the incoming signal/power to a much greater amperage / voltage. 


It seems that not many people know that Stan was even working on this system. I have been doing extensive research and development on this system.


Some Important Notes from alot of study 

 After Studying Searl Magnetic SEG 2 things seam very apparent and possible with Stand machines 

I call these Introvert (Stans Way)  and extrovert.( electrons from our side tube) 



The Stan Meyer Invert Method his stated method  of having a magnetic gas move through tube, 

could in fact be improved by have sensitive fer rite pickup inside the tube to make the voltage spikes, further enhancing stand magnetic stimulation of coils on outside of tube.  Some of this was thought of as Searl Using the Gathering and Damming of electron using ferit in his system.


 it could also extract elections from gas inside tube which is not necessary;y same as Stan methods

similar to a Magnetic Flow Meter which would increase sensitivity of a could pickup or magnetic movement of a pick up coil, ( as there seam to be some debate about the copper preventing the magnetic gas making flux in pick up coils coil.


It seams pulsing gas with LED Laser will cause lithium oxygen and h2 to cool and become magnetic. 

Also  of Large Turbine use pure h2 to cool the machines ,gas flows through and cool the steel 

some run the gas through the stators. 

it is total possible that h2 or Magnetic gas compose could impart more electrons into the stator by attracting electron from air.


And Such the Epg Stans Unit will get vert cold when gas flowing as a rate of speed through it 

it will in fact attract electron from air these could be harvested just like searl did. As the Ionising and air will flow to centre of egp.  

Further pulsing with laser  will increase the effect 


Scientists Create First Ever Magnetic Gas

By Stuart Fox September 18, 2009

Article Clipping 

For decades, scientists have debated whether or not gasses could display the same magnetic properties

as solids.  Now, thanks to some MIT scientists, they know the answer is a freezing cold yes.

MIT researchers have observed magnetism in an atomic gas of lithium cooled down to 150 millionths 
of a degree above absolute zero. This experiment represents a point of unification between condensed 
matter research and the field of atomic science and lasers, and could influence areas such as data storage 
and medical diagnostics.

To get the lithium gas so cold, the researchers trained an infrared laser beam on the gaseous cloud. 
Laser cooling is the primary method physicists use to lower gas temperatures to near absolute zero. 
The laser essentially stun the atoms, slowing them down, and thus lowering the temperature.
After initially growing, the cloud began to shrink. That shrinkage, combined with the speed of 
expansion after the laser turned off, indicated that the lithium atoms had become magnetic.
"It's very important from an overall theoretical point of view because it gives us an understanding 
of magnetism at its smallest possible scale," Scott Pritchard, an MIT professor, and one of 
the experiment leaders, told us.

Improving magnetic gas directions or coil sensitivity 
Backup of Video 

This is my Copper EPG i will be using for testing. The wire will be installed next, at a bare minimum there will be close to 2 miles of AWG22 magnet wire on this EPG.   


You can see my first attempt at the EPG using plastic at the end of this page.

Here is some of the progress i have made. The divider plates are installed, next i start the wire winding.


I'm building a wire winder (the wood in the background ) to help wind the 2+ miles of wire... thanks to YouTube user hawk491000 for the idea on the winder!


Update Photo Here: as of 2-8-12


Stanley A Meyer Mechanical Pump EPG coil parameters



Method 1.
The diameter of the outermost EPG channel or loop can be  about 17 inches
Therefore the outer circumference can be estimated at  17 x Pi inches
By dividing the circumference by the observed number of coils an estimated length of each coil can be made.

A further refinement in precision can be made by subtraction of  the total length  L occupied by coil spacers.
So in the case where you count, let's say as way of example, 59 coils and 60 coil end spacers, each winding is
1/59th of the circumference of 53.4 inches or calculated at about 0.905 inches long.

Method 2.
Because of  the high resolution photographs available, estimates of  a coil can be made directly.
Using a known measurement such as the outside diameter of tubing  ie.  0.500 inches
in conjunction with a screen distance tool in Photoshop(r) or another program such as
Screen Caliper(r) the length of the coil can be made.

Since the outside diameter of the core channel is known,  an estimate of the thickness of depth of winding
may be obtained by using  photogrammetry to estimate the  thickness of the winding.
The total thickness or height of the wound coil is first measured. Then the core diameter is then subtracted.
the resulting  figure is then divided by two. This is the height or thickness of the winding around the core

So now we have what is call a winding window with height H and length L.
H TIMES L = A   the area of the winding window. Think of it a a cross-sectional view of
the coil windings with the ends of each wire being viewed.
Something like this:

representing 3 layers of wire with 12 wraps (the II symbolizing the  coil dividers)
3 layers of wire by 12 wires wide or 36 turns or wraps of wire around a bobbin


In this exsmple, a thinner wire could be wound 18 times on the same length of bobbin.

Since the gauge of  the wire can be estimated with a good amount of precision
,the use of circle packing theory (see wiki) theory can be used to determine the
number of turns that can fit through this winding window( Area equals Height
times length.

One factor that helps, is that wires come in standard  thicknesses or diameters
For convenience the AWG  (American Wire Gauge) is used in electrical
and electronic work, Electrical wiring in the U.S. is often 10,12  or 14AWG
Electronic work is often  uses 18,22, or 30  AWG gauge wire
Whatever the reason the smaller the AWG number, the thicker or larger
the diameter of wire!!

The reason this helps in photogrammetry, is that the gauges are discrete values
Look at this table:

AWG      Diameter in inches           AWG     Diameter in Inches
10           .1019                                 20           .0320
12           .0808                                 22           .0253
14           .0641                                 24           .0201
16           .0508                                 26           .0159
18           .0403                                 28           .0126
                                                         30           .0101

The 16 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 18 gauge
The 22 gauge wire is about 25% thicker than 24 gauge

Not to get too technical, but this is a logarithmic scale,  but the important  concept
in relation to the precision achievable in photogrammetry

This means for a given photogrammetric distance is it easier to pick out the exact
gauge of wire used because the precision of the that method is often less than 2 to 5%.


There is a branch of mathematics which describes how many circles of uniform
size can be drawn in a given area. It goes by several names but let's just call it
Circle Packing Theory. 

By determining the winding window size, the  appropriate circle packing  fraction can be used to
determine a close estimate of the number of windings per coil. In the previous example
cross-section of a coil, it represents one type of winding

Another type is hexagonal winding, with the layers arranged more like a honeycomb

And thirdly there is a random type of winding with lots of crossover and gaps

The hexagonal packing is the closest or most densest  method of winding coils
with a value of 0.906  or about 91% of the area occupied by wire with the
balance of the area being gaps between the wires

Square geometry winding with  each winding of wire directly on top the
layer below(  No offset)   has a value of 0.785  It is not at close or dense
a winding as hexagonal winding

A random wind often a more gaps but the packing ratio is highly dependent
on the size of the wire relative the length and width of the winding window

Consider for a moment two equally sized sheets of sandpaper.
One is coated coarse grade grit, the other coated coated with a fine grit used for
final sanding.  The  arrangement of the sand grains is random in both
cases but there are fewer grain of sand  on the coarse paper and
many more grains of  sand on the finer grit paper.
This is analogous to the number of random winding or wraps of wire in a given
cross sectional area on a bobbin. Intuitively very small wire gauges have a
higher  packing fraction than large. This is a difficult value to quantify


As an example if the winding window is 1 square inch and the AWG  is 22, and the tighter hexagonal
winding factor is used(0.906) then    0.906 square inches of that window is occupied by the area of the wire..
The cross-sectional area of AWG 22 is 0.0005 inches.
0.906/divided by 0.0005 =approx 1800 turns
With precision or square winding a factor of 0.78 can be used resulting in an estimate of 1560 turns through
a 1 inch square window 


Basically the application of the above method may be used to estimate  the number
of windings for an EPG coil by photogrammetric means in some cases
As search of empircal transformer design charts might be instructive for this third case


It appears as though the mechanical drive epg was wired in parallel  lower voltage and  and a
higher amperage due to more coils
While the multitier EPG was higher voltage due to fewer coils and  many windings which required of multiple tiers
It also could be that the effective value of the flux in the mag-gas systems was lower that the higher density ferro fluids
which might explain the need to operate at  90 ips velocity

Russ Epg Build Attempt

The Picture Below show the end game System Stan Made 

Top is a HCAT hho no flame can be turned to heat and water  video to right

heat can further go to boiler or steam turbine

A0201-01 Thanks sandia24 . Nice work

A0201-03  I was setting up the variable list for Problem 4 on the power output ad input see if this is reasonable--Q's on
                   clarification or suggestions to team drop box or pm if your are an ionizationx member
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                          VARIABLE  LIST AND VALUE RANGE

                              VARIABLE                                                                                                                   VALUE             SOURCE/// REFERENCE
                              V1 = velocity of magnetic field movement per second                                                             50-90 ips          In 2019 Handout in Bremen Conference
                              N1 = number of twists per unit length of non-magnetic spiral divider per unit length               0.3 - 1.2          Estimate for  M4steel considering thickness
                                                                                                                                                                                                           and core diameter.
                              N3 = value of magnetic field strength                                                                                              ?                 TBD by calc. and type of EPG
                              F1 = value of the frequency pulsing alignment coils for dyne-axis of magnetic field               60 Hz/sec         Mains frequency in US  50 some parts of EU---  wiki
                              N4=  number of coils per tier                                                                                                       1 - 58               Don Gabel, photogrammetry and SEPG022,
                              N5 = number of turns in each coil                                                                                               200 - 12000      Estimates using packing fractions, winding depth,
                                                                                                                                                                                                             length photogrammetry as secondary verification
                                 P1 = effective cross-section winding factor: random, hexagonal or precision winding            0.78- 0.906      Wiki refs circle packing theory
                                 N6 = number of core sectors enclosed by pick-up coil                                                                3- 4                Don Gabel  images of various  EPG's   
                                 N7= number of tiers                                                                                                                      1  - 7                Birth of New Technology   1994 or 1995 ed
                                 A1= cross-sectional area of tubing uses in EPG tier ( in inches0                                               0.218- 0.254     The Copper Handbook

                                Power Input Variables
                                W1 = watts required for initiation of flow    ( Initial inertial load)                                 Rheological, mass density and volume consideration   TBC
                                W2= steady state power load for mag-media circulation                                                                          see appendix  TBC
                                W3 = dyne-axis load                                                                                                                                 see  appendix  TBC

                                Known values

                                N1  known
                                N2  known   
                                N3  calculation to be completed
                                N4  known   
                                N5 known
                                N6 known
                                F1 known
                                P1  known
                                V1 known
                       Stated  design output  was 220 VAC @ 300 amps       ( per seminar notes)
A0202-01    Let's try another attempt  at N3. At one of the conferences in 2019 ( SMC 2019 Bremen Ohio), it was proposed that the Transformer EMF                               
                     equation might be used in the mathematical model of the Meyer EPG series regarding the flux density problem.

                      Through photogrammetry the  maximum number of turns , number of coils, diameter and volume of the core
                      magnetized slurry/gas can be determined. Since the output power, velocity, and frequency are known with some precision

                      It may be possible to arrange the transformer EMF equation to obtain a Beta Max for the flux density!!
                      Another observation was made at the 2019 Bremen Conference that the larger the core volume, the lower value of the magnetic
                      saturation could be and still maintain the same power output. This is because the total power output for the device is dependent
                      in part  upon the total amount of flux present in the magnetic core.

A0202-02    Correct, if the other design factors such as the number of coils, number of winds and same velocity of the magnetic
                      gas or slurry are maintained, the limitations of the maximum level of  magnetic saturation of the EFH series ferrofluids
                      can be mitigated.  Basically scale up the volume and the magnetic saturation can be lower and still provide the
                      design power output. While the 400 Hz mil-spec converters are still an option for the magnetic drives I think
                      you may want to just keep it simple so that operating frequency matches the 50 or 60 Hz standards for output for
                      residential use.               
A0202-03      thnx to thorzpwr 

A0203=01      ok, you forgot to hide your location ,metadata  I'll fix it zo the mib's don't get

A0205-01       Since output data is only available for the 6Tmaggas EPG and for the velocity of the magnetic medium, 'I think a problem approach might be
                        to determine the flux in the 6 multi-tier system as if EFH-1 was present and then scale down to the magnetic pump system  and volume of EFH-1
                        at the stated velocity and use a ,calculated flux density to determine output characteristics of the  magnetic pump  device in terms of output.
                        The sizing of the bus bars, the parallel  arrangement of the pick-up coils and the  breakdown voltage of the insulation might put some upper
                        limits to how it was being operated and limits to the possible voltagexs and amps produced

                        Design output  220 VAC at 300 amps  =  66,000 watts

A020601       So now let's assign values to some of the variables
   Cross sectional area is calculated as follows:

                  1. determine the diameter of the tubing    0.5" obtained by photogrammetry  0.5 outside diameter
                     also confirmed by actual measurement by Don Gabel . (see notebook photos)

                  2. determine the range of. possible internal diameters     Common types of pipe K L and M that have the
                      same outside diameter but thickness of inner diameter and wall thickness vary.
                      Stan Meyer may have used  pre-coiled air conditioning or water supply tubing. for ease of construction.

A very useful free reference is The Copper Tubing Handbook fermi which provides the specifications and measurements
for copper tubing and pipe.

You can google The Copper Tubing Handbook for the pdf  or just click on this link:

One observation concerning the publicly available EPG images, it that there do not seem to be joints on the spiralled sections
themselves although the connecting copper pipes to the pumps or other means of moving the slurry or gas are straight. 
I believe Stan Meyerswas practical and tried to keep things simple, so I believe he just used piping that was already coiled when purchased.

So, now let's use the above reference to get a range of possible values for the cross-sections of the copper tubing and pipes
commonly available.. Copper pipe has three basic wall thicknesses: Type K, Type L and Type  M  So even though the outside
diameter may remain the same, a THICKER wall means a SMALLER cross-section inside the tube

So here's the values of cross-sectional area for different copper tubing and pipe in square inches:

  Type K    0.218   Type L  0.233   Type M  0.254   So the cross-sectional area for coiled copper pipe  is between 0.218 and 0.254 square inches

Since the 6 tier system is not available for examination at this time, there is a degree of  imprecision for the cross-sectional area value
Because the cross-sectional area is used in volume calculations and in the calculation of total magnetic flux for these systems, the estimates
of system performance depend upon the type of tubing used in the construction
Length of tubing carrying magnetic slurry/gas

Since the EPGs are of a general circular design, the formula    C = D x Pi  or stated -- Circumference of a circle equals the
diameter of the circle multiplied by Pi    (approximately 3.1416)

Now, if you are trying to find the total length of tubing  used in an EPG which is a spiral, for example(In this case exactly
3 loops, then thinkof this as 3 circles each with a different diameter and circumference
The outer loop is longer than the middle loop which is in turn larger the the innermost ring of loop.

So roughly speaking, let's say you had an EPG like the Magnetic Drive (Red Pump) System and that by examination
or photogrammetryand it was determined that diameter was 17 inches.

If you are using 1/2  inch tubing in the construction, what would be the diameter of the middle loop?

The radius  of the middle loop is moved in by 1/2 inch because of the width of the outer loop or to put it another
way, the diameter of the middle loop would be 16 inches measured across its outside  By a similar reasoning, the innermost  loop
is  or about 15 inches in diameter.

So the length the spiral is approximately ( 15 + 16 + 17) times Pi.   Now Stan Meyer for reasons of type of pump used (B-500 had input and output
connections at right angles)then some portions of the spiral had four loops instead of three so adjustments will have to be
made for this added length.   The total length of is important because this is used in the calculations
for the Volume of gas or ferrofluid being used  and also in the calculations for inductance and the number windings for the
coils as well as the length of wire required for making the  windings
Coils and length of wire need for project and per coil
                                                                                                                                         End View                "Tube" length

A formula for a single wind around a single circular  core                                                    O                    diameter of wire times 1

1.A formula for multiple winds around a singular tubular core  of length L               O                    diameter of wire  x N  number of windings or wraps

2 A formula for multiple winds around  two adjacent tubular cores of length L        OO                  diameter of wire  x N  number of windings or wraps

.3 A formula for multiple winds around three adjacent tubular cores of length     OOO                    diameter of wire  x N number of windings  or wraps
4 General Formula for multiple winds around  multiple tubes                                         OOOO...               diameter of wire  x N number of windings or wraps 

So the length of the tube determines the total number of wraps possible independent of the number of adjacent tubes
(close wraps  no spacing between wraps on tube

Formula  Length of tube (think inductor core) equals the number of wraps times the width or diameter of the wire  L= N times W or    L/ divided by W  = N
ay of determining the number of wraps  that can fit on a given length of  tube or core

Now for the fun part determining the Length of Wire   needed for one wrap around multiple adjacent cores

Formula for 1 core                                 O           L   = Diameter of core times Pi

Formula for 2 adjacent cores              OO           L = (Diameter of core times Pi)  PLUS  2D  <---    for the wire that bridges the "notch" between the adjacent tubes  (top and bottom)

Formula foe 3 adjacent cores            OOO          L = (Diameter of  core times Pi)  PLUS  4D  <---   to account for the length needed to bridge 2 notches between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)

Formula for 4 adjacent cores          OOOO          L = Diameter of core times Pi)    PLUS  6D <---    To account for the length  needed to bridge 3 notches between the adjacent tubes (top and bottom)

In summary, we now can calculate the length of a single wrap of wire around multiple adjacent cores and if we multiply that by the number of wraps  or turns that can be wrapped on a given  linear length of core
     it is helpfun in deciding amount of wire needed

General Formula for Single Layer 1 wrap or turn around multiple adjacent tubes

L length equals ( Diameter of core or tube) plus ( ( N or number of cores minus 1) times 2)

So now is possible to calculate the number of winds or wraps (single layer0 around an EPG if we know the diameter of the outermost core of a spiralled EPG, the number of "loops" in the spiral, the outside
diameter of the core tubing and the gauge, diameter or width of the wire used to  wrap the core
So lets give a quick try for the multitier 6TmaggasEPG

1 tier is about 17 inches in diameter.   Since the line drawing of the 7 tier system  and photographs show the drain/connecting tubes are 180 degrees apart so its possible to keep the number of loops for a tier to
be 2.5 3.5 or 4.5 loops or if the connecting tubes are all  exact  integers of loops the connecting tube could be all on one side.  Or the direction of the flow could be counterclockwise  one one tier and clockwise in the other tier. So based on the line drawing lets say that that each tier has 3.5 loops

Length of core for 1 tier       [ ( 15+16+17)]times Pi ]  plus( 1/2 times 14 times Pi) = 150.78 + 29.99 =  172.77 inches   6 tiers 1036 inches
172.77 inches  divided by .025 inches per turn  (22 gauge wire by photogrammetry  = maximum 6910 turns per tier
6 times 6910  = 41,460 turns  or if you use exactly 3 loops per tier    150.78 times 6 = 904  inches  904 divided by  0.025 = about 36,191 turns  6 tiers 906 inches

Image a n inductor with between 36 and 41 thousand turns of wire and  between  75 and 86 feet long !! depending on method of construction
Design parameters                                                                                                                                   Metric

The design output is 220 volts at 300 amp draw  66,000 watts  (Watts)           
(W) 220 times 300 amp draw   = 66,000 watts

The cross-sectional area of the core is between 0.218 and  0.254 square in
or (A)  =  1.406 to 1.634  sq cm or 0.0001406 0.0001634  square meters

F (frequency) is  60 cycle/ second AC
V (voltage) is 220 volts AC output
K Constant  = 4.44
Solving of Bm =BetaMax

Basic equation

  V   =  voltage
  F  = supply frequency
  N = number of turns
  A = cross sectional area in square meters
  B = peak  magnetic flux density in Weber / meter squared or T tesla
  K = 4.44
   V = 4.44  x F x N x A x B or rearranging this

    B =   divided by( 4.44    x  f x  N    x   a )           

  so let's try plugging in a few figures for a six tier device

         V = voltage       220 VAC
         F=  60 hertz per second in the US
         N= 11,873
         A =  0. 000468  sq m area         3 channels of pipe  x 0.242 sq inches divided by conversion factor 1550  =  000468 square metres
         4.44 = constant
                      Bmax  =   220/ 1480  or      0.1486  Wb/M squared  or Tesla     for the 5/8" six tier system4.44 times F*N * BetaMax * A
Rearranging: BetaMax  =  V  divided by ( 4.44 x F x  N x  A)
                      220 divided by(  4.44 times  60 Hz/sec  frequency times 36191 x .218 A sq inches   =  .0001046

now to work on units. with a different diameter..
              V = 220 VAC...
              F = supply frequency
              N = number of turns 
              A = cross sectional area in square meters
              B = peak  magnetic flux density in Wb / meter squared or T tesla
              K = constant

                     V = 4.44  x F  x N  x A x Bmax,   or rearranging this

                      Bmax  =        V divided by( 4.44 * F *  N * A )           

  so let's try plugging in a few figures for a six tier device with a  5/8"  OD copper spiral

V = voltage       220 VAC
F= 60 hertz per second in the U
N = 11,87
A =   0. 000468  sq m area                                       3 channels of pipe  x 0.242 sq inches divided by conversion factor 1550  =  000468 square metres
B = BetaMax
K = 4.44   ( constant )

Thus Bmax  =   220/ 1480  or      0.1486  Wb/M squared  or Tesla     for the 5/8" six tier system

      [    b]Next Topic Multiple layer coils

In terms of construction if the cross sectional area is changed because of using a larger diameter tubing but keeping N number of turns the same and the length of the
spiralled coils is the same and other factors the same (same desired output) t because the output is related to the amount of flux of the core, the larger the core in terms
of cross section (and volume) means that a lower Beta value in the core of  the upsized EPG can  still result in the desired power output.  Basically if more power is
needed the large core can allow for a lower amount of flux to be used if there is a limit to magnetic saturation for the slurry or mag-gas matrix.

This is more useful to calculate wire requirements for the Mechanical Pump EPG .
Since it's possible to estimate the thickness of the coils, the length of the original coils,
the gauge of the wire and velocity of the ferrofluid 50 ips  and using a flux value estimate
a power output for the Mechanical Pump EPG.

Stanley A Meyer Useful Reference Books for EPG Design

« on: February 16, 2021, 16:58:44 pm »

 Inductance Calculations by Frederick W Grover
Classical Electromagnetism by Jerrold Franklin
Solved Problems in Classical Magnetism by Jerrold Franklin
all published at one time or another by

inductor calculator

link to EFH-1 permeability

p 18   mu = 1.789 for ferrotec EPH1

Stanley A Meyer Negative Viscosity of Ferrofluids and EPG Design Considerations

« on: February 21, 2021, 14:38:29 pm »

The ability of ferrofluids to exhibit negative viscosities has implications for the selection of ferrofluids
used in the Meyer mechanical drive EPG as well as the  linear magnetic drive systems.

Although there are viscosity measurements provided by the manufacturer of the  EFH series ferrofluids and
it was postulated that the selection of the  EFH -1 over the then available EFH- 4 which had a greater viscosity
(but also a higher percent of magnetite and magnetic susceptibility) was primarily given a greater importance
then magnetic susceptibility as a design factor.

If ferrofluids have a lower viscosity under an alternating magnetic field this observation might allow the use of
higher viscosity ferrofluids than those used by Stanley A Meyer

A possible effect of the alignment coils in the mechanical pump EPG design may be to reduce the viscosity
of the ferrofluid before and after pumping. There are also implications for the velocity of gaseous magnetic
matrices in the multi-tier series of EPG which used linear magnetic pumps.

see attachment  or internet search for "negative viscosity of ferrofluid under alternating magnetic field"


AU  - Shliomis, Mark

AU  - Morozov, Konstantin

PY  - 1994/08/01

SP  - 2855

EP  - 2861

T1  - Negative viscosity of ferrofluid under alternating magnetic field

VL  - 6

DO  - 10.1063/1.868108

JO  - Physics of Fluids - PHYS FLUIDS

ER  -

Stanley A Meyer EPG and Manufacture of Paramagnetic Slurries

« on: March 04, 2021, 01:51:44 am »  

A previous post detailed a possible process for the manufacture of  ferro argonide dust or powders to be circulated in
the electrical particle generated with the circular or spiraled channel of the devices

Ferro-Tec, a major supplier of ferrofluids to the world sells dry magnetite powders. It might be possible to mix these with
low viscosity carrier fluids perhaps a thin silane ,or mineral oil to create a slurry with high magnetic saturation
with viscosity appropriate for the mechanical pump and linear magnetic drive series of  EPGs

The new polyethylene glycol  PEG ferrofluids have very low viscosity but are aqueous in nature
Other dry powders are available with various  for coatings which might allow a variety of optimum liquid carriers.

Not all of the early EPG models of Stanley Meyer's devices used mechanical pumps to move
magnetic slurry or gas within the copper spiral cores. One model used linear magnetic drive
pumps to circulate the slurry/gases. The other was the magnetic spin EPG. The  six tier multiple
tier EPG  (aka "gega series" or (6Tmaggasepg) designed for home power generation also had
similar pumps. The seven tier system is now thought to have had a bottom tier with electronics
for control of the flow of the magnetic gas but not pickup coils. The library group has located
documentation by people who either saw the device or saw an arkived video recording of it
powering a row of incandescent bulbs

see attached 3 new images of the EPGs and  a linear pump cross-section

Photo Label                                       Source                             
1  Mechanical Drive EPG                  Stanley Meyer Arkive (c)
2  Magnetic Drive EPG                     Stanley Meyer Arkive (c)
3  Example Linear Mag Drive           Wiki


The 7Tier maggas EPG had a plywood base and row of 6 incandescent. bulbs.

After Stan's passing  this was not present in the inventory that QCI ultimately acquired
Also it was not present at the L3 unit when the TOP assessment was made.

But Which Gas?
I think helium is a good choice. I looked up Helium 3 which is used with MRI machines to scan the inside of lung passage ways. He3 has magnetic properties that can be viewed on the MRI machine.
ote the similarity to what Haisch and Moddel did with a Casimir cavity and a noble gas...


One can use a voltage gradient to separate the two states of ammonia (N-Up, N-Down), pump the N-Up into a resonant cavity, then feed that resonant cavity with 23.87 GHz to force the N-Up ammonia molecules to relax to their ground state, giving off microwave photons in the process. The energy given off is in resonance with the 23.87 GHz pump.

Since ammonia will naturally be a mixture of N-Up and N-Down, given time, the 'relaxed' ammonia when released from the resonant cavity will regain the normal proportion of N-Up and N-Down due to random thermal fluctuations forcing some of the ammonia molecules back into an N-Up state. Rinse and repeat.

This is the basis for a MASER (Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation).

Could this have been what Stan Meyer was doing with his "magnetic gas", using the microwaves to dissociate water?

I seem to remember that the exhaust of his buggy was reported as foul smelling, ammonia. Would he only exhaust it after an extraction cycle? Is there enough to be extracted? From what I understood before, the water (or it's components) from the fuel tank was somehow made to react with intake air, the nitrogen finding it's way to the NH3 ammonia exhaust fumes. If there is some serious energy left in the form of ammonia obtained this way, one can expect Stan to have extracted it.

Stan's work is very compelling, way above my comprehension. I hope someone figures it out, or takes a part of the work and gets it to stand by itself.
 US2780069 Precession.pdf -
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Stanley A Meyer EPG and Stable Room Temperature Magnetic Liquid Compounds

« on: March 21, 2021, 16:12:07 pm 

Stanley A Meyer is said to have designed EPG devices that circulated magnetic gases and liquids
To date, the creation of magnetic gas matrices has proven challenging to the various EPG researchers
and working groups .  While the  EPG design and concepts have been fairly well elucidated by Miner,
Greis, and Hauswirth, et al,' the use of stable magnetic compounds that are single entity liquids may open
up a novel method of electrical generation in the liquid EPG systems.

"Hamaguchi et al. observed magnetic ionic liquids by introducing FeCl4 to the anion part to form
1-butyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrachloroferrate, (Bmim)FeCl4.1,2) A magnetic fluid is a liquid with
magnetic properties. However, a conventional magnetic fluid contains volatile solvents. It causes a
change of viscosity and phase separation by cohesion/precipitation. On the other hand, the magnetic
ionic liquid is a highly stable and non-volatile liquid. Moreover, this magnetic ionic
liquid responds to a magnetic field by a permanent magnet, because it shows large magnetic
susceptibility at room temperature."

The magnetic susceptibility can be further increased by the addition of  nano-particles in the 10 to 100 size range
that are used in the ferrofluid technologies. In this situation  the carrier fluid has a magnetic component to it as
well as the particles in suspension.   The kerosene based ferro-fluids such EFH and EMG series Ferrotech(r)
would  be good choice for the Series 6 trial    The ionic/aqueous ferrofluids will be addressed in Series 7 trials

source diagrams and chemicals�

Magnetic Ionic Liquids

 Ionic liquids consist of only ionic components, having high ionic conductivity suitable for a liquid electrolyte. An electrolyte for a secondary battery requires not only high ionic conductivity but also non-volatility, heat-resistivity, non-inflammability, and non-corrosiveness. Ionic liquids cover these conditions. The cationic component of ionic liquid involves alkyl-substituted imidazolium, pyrrolidinium, piperidinium, ammonium, phosphonium, sulfonium and the anionic component involves halide, BF4, PF6, thiocyanate, and di(sulfonyl)imide. Chemical modifications of the cation and anion control melting point, viscosity and ionic conductivity. Hamaguchi et al. observed magnetic ionic liquids by introducing FeCl4 to the anion part to form 1-butyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrachloroferrate, (Bmim)FeCl4.1,2) A magnetic fluid is a liquid with magnetic properties. However, a conventional magnetic fluid contains volatile solvents. It causes a change of viscosity and phase separation by cohesion/precipitation. On the other hand, the magnetic ionic liquid is a highly stable and non-volatile liquid. Moreover, this magnetic ionic liquid responds to a magnetic field by a permanent magnet, because it shows large magnetic susceptibility at room temperature.

Attached is a representation of a Nickel Argonide (NiAr) gas matrix based on
the FeAr gas matrix shown in the Meyer New Zealand video and also the CoAr

it's interesting that Meyer shows (in a 2d representation) iron and argon sharing 4 electrons
The argon +1 ion can be achieved by high voltage sparks in a rarified argon gas
Additional "laser" excitement might allow more atoms in the outer shell to
leave the outer ring especially if in the presence of an electron extraction circuit

A  number of factors make it easier to extract the electrons from the transitional
metals used partly because of a lower ionization energy due to the greater distance
of the outer electron shell from the positive nucleus and that there\are more available
electrons to be pulled off. I suspect that in a 3d  configuration of the FeAr matrix
is similar to the cubic orthography of NaCl.   However the stability of the FeAr matrix
may be enhanced by the stabilizing forces due to the paramagnetism of FE Co or Ni
This is in addition to the ionic bonding force qq

The gas may be more of a nanocluster light enough to be carried by the Argon
carrier gas  analogous to sand in water or quicksand   3 to 20 FeAr per clump